Bob from Pennsylvania after the Jesse Lee program: Isn’t date fixing similar to divination? One is trying to read a crystal ball (Bible) and predict the future. Many ‘nut-case’ preachers such as Hal Lindsey (who is actually a. zionist crypto-jew) published many end-of-the-world books. Hal told the sheep that the end was 1970, 1980 and 1990, and they still followed him! His early books “disappear” when the date passes without a result. It seems to me that the true followers of Yahweh will understand the prophetic sections of the scrolls once the events have occurred… and then they will know that Yahweh is supreme! (and not the other way around.) Everything in life requires effort and the sheep now want a “get-out-of-jail-free” card from a cryto-jew preacher that tells them they are saved because they quoted some corny lines from a ‘movie’ script. Sounds like Hollywood. By the way, Eli’s 2012 clock has immediately turned away my friend in Germany and my brother. Eli appears to have a reason for this date, but so does almost EVERYONE else. It is just like 31-Dec-1999 and nothing happened. (Alex Jones did a bang-up job attempting to instigate panic on 31-Dec-1999. Perhaps he can host a 21-Dec-2012 CI show!) If the 2012 crowd is right, I will be humbled once again. Sorry for the rant, but this date-divination bothered me during my many years in the jew-run churches.