Christogenea Open Forum Programs


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The Christogenea Open Forum was a call-in program which ran from late 2010 until mid 2012 when it was replaced by Christogenea Saturdays. The Christogenea European Fellowship Forum ran twice monthly until mid 2012, when travels and marriage made it too difficult for us to keep scheduled. While some of these programs are topical and remain here, most of these archives are housed at the Christogenea Archive website.

Marital Relations & 1 Corinthians Chapter 7 - Christogenea Forum Call 03-14-11

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1 Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning those things you have written: it is admirable for a man not to join to a woman; 2 but because of fornication each man must have his own wife, and each woman must have her own husband.

Matt. 19:12 For there are eunuchs who have been born thusly from the womb of a mother, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who make themselves eunuchs on account of the kingdom of the heavens! He being able to comprehend must comprehend!”

1 Corinthians 7:3 The husband must render the obligation due to the wife, and in like manner the wife also to the husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband; and in like manner also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife.

Marriage is a partnership. A wife has as much say over what the husband does with himself as the husband himself does, and vice versa. Neither husband or wife should do anything to themselves in any way, without the consent of the other. However as Paul says elsewhere, the husband is the head of the wife. Yet he patriarchal society is the Biblical model for both community and family structure, it is simply natural to our race – and the jew hates it. We must seek to keep it intact.

Caleb the Israelite, and other topics - Christogenea Forum Call 03-07-11

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On Caleb the Israelite:

Okay, today I thought I would try to clear something up, which I tried to do last week in an email, but the person who wrote to me just didn't get it when I answered. I will take the blame for that, and Yahweh willing, maybe I can do better here.

Concerning the Caleb of the book of Joshua – a hero of those of the spies who searched out Jericho - I have seen this same contention many times before, that he is pointed out to be an Edomite simply because Esau had a son named Kenaz, and Caleb had a grandfather named Kenaz. They take further advantage of a part of Numbers 14:24 where it says that Caleb “had another spirit with him” to try to make their wayward case for universalism. Their attitude is generally that if an Edomite (as they claim Caleb to be) can be saved, can't everyone else be saved?

This is sort of like insisting that General George Washington and George Washington Carver must be related, simply because they shared a name. It is odd how people think of the Bible – or rather, don't think of the Bible – that they can read it and its context does not matter: if two things sound alike, they must be alike. Such a perception is quite childish, to say the least.

All Israel Shall Be Saved - Christogenea Forum Call 02-28-11

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All Israel Shall Indeed be Saved

1 Corinthians 2:14 Now the natural man does not accept that of the Spirit of Yahweh, for it is folly to him, and he is not able to know because it is inquired of spiritually; 15 but the spiritual inquires into all things, and it by no one is examined. 16 "For who has known the mind of Yahweh? Who will instruct Him?” But we have the perception of Christ.

(Jer 50:17-20 KJV)

17 Israel is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: first the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and last this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones. 18 Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will punish the king of Babylon and his land, as I have punished the king of Assyria.19 And I will bring Israel again to his habitation, and he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soul shall be satisfied upon mount Ephraim and Gilead.20 In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserve.

(Jer 33:6-9 KJV)

On Psalm 137:9 - Christogenea Forum Call 02-21-11

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KJV Habakkuk 3:1 A prayer of Habakkuk the prophet upon Shigionoth.
2 O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.
3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.
5 Before him went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.
6 He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.
7 I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction: and the curtains of the land of Midian did tremble.
8 Was the LORD displeased against the rivers? was thine anger against the rivers? was thy wrath against the sea, that thou didst ride upon thine horses and thy chariots of salvation?
9 Thy bow was made quite naked, according to the oaths of the tribes, even thy word. Selah. Thou didst cleave the earth with rivers.
10 The mountains saw thee, and they trembled: the overflowing of the water passed by: the deep uttered his voice, and lifted up his hands on high.
11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear....

My Response to Eli James' Coming Out as a Universalist

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Christogenea Forum Call 01-24-11. Yes, I did call him that, and no, I do not apologize for it. Yes, I was angry, because he had suddenly begun to betray so many of his own former professions. How did he agree with me hundreds of times before?

The End of Genesis Heresy - 01-17-11

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There was a technical glitch at the end of the program and the last few minutes of the recording were cut off. It does not affect the presentation, except for an abrupt ending. We apologize for that.

The End of Genesis Heresy

Many people in Christian Israel Identity operate on emotion, and with an agenda, rather than simply examining and following the truth of the written Word - which is consistent from one end of the Bible to the other, as they would find if they would just read it, while, of course, also considering those relatively few verses which are clearly proven to be corrupted or mistranslated. But people would rather take short cuts, and both believe and profess things which may sound good and which may seem to present simple solutions to things hard to understand, but which do not represent real scholarship, and then they always run into problems later. Tonight I plan to go through the entire Genesis scenario once again...

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